Showing posts with label Hulk. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hulk. Show all posts

What's happening at Universal (Marvel) edition

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Many people have forgotten that Universal Studios still controls the Hulk IP when it comes to Marvel Universe on film.   That was confirmed in 2009 by Kevin Feige who at the time dropped a shocking revelation during the same conversation when he continued to say Universal Studios also controls the IP rights to Namor.  Its been lead on that Universal may actually control the rights to a third IP but that has not been either officially confirmed or denied.

Even though a few ideas have been bandied about there is no official movement on any stand-alone films for these characters.
 
Since there are no movies in active development why are these IP not being returned to marvel Entertainment? 
The agreement between Marvel Studios (Disney) and Universal Pictures that allows Hulk (and Thaddeus Ross) to appear in Marvel Studio Films stops the clock from winding for the return of these IP to Disney.   In simple terms as long as these characters appear in a marvel film the time to release (or put into development) is either reset or stopped.    The drop dead date is approximately 2023, but that could be pushed back by Hulk's incusion in Thor: Ragnarok and even further by Infinity War.

What about Planet Hulk?
Just to cover a few bases here, Planet Hulk is a story arc from the comics in which Tony Stark decided The Hulk is too dangerous to everyone on Earth so he banishes him to deep space.   Bruce Banner/The Hulk ends up as a gladiator fighting for his survival on a gladiatorial planet.
 
I have heard rumors that the Planet Hulk story line was seriously considered by Universal both independently and in conjunction with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but the worry of rate of return and interference with Universal other IPs.

What's "rate of return" and how does that effect whether or not I get my Hulk movie?
When you invest money into a project you have an expectation to see some, all, or more of that money come back.   So if Disney invests $250M into Captain America: Civil War they expect the movie to return about $750M back or an ROR of 3 to 1.   According to the rumors Universal ran the number and the best solution was 1.25 to 1.   And that was limiting the movie to $150 M budget.   Marvel Studios is in a similar boat, their ROR was a little higher but not much, not enough to green light a movie.

But the Hulk is mean green and fighting machine that many people want to see!

In 2003 Universal released Ang Lee's Hulk and in 2008 the soft reboot/sequel Incredible Hulk directed by Louis Leterrier both of which technically are a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.   Both movies lost money in the theaters, not a lot of money, but they still lost money.   With DVD/BluRay sales and TV rights they probably made a few dollars. 
For a moment I would like to overlook the obvious plot holes and deviations from the comics and focus on a major problem both films had.   The inability to block/frame/execute a Hulk fight scene properly.   Its a common problem is Super Hero films, just look at Batman, Thor, X-Men Last Stand and the list goes on and on.  People are willing to overlook many failures if you have a kick-ass fight sequence, but so few people in Hollywood seem to have that ability.   Tim Miller with a background in visual effects may have paved the way for the next generation of Comic Book Action Film Makers, but they are not here yet.   Marvel is currently taking chances on many new and upcoming directors in the next round of films, Taika Waititi will be directing Thor: Ragnarok, Emily Carmichael for Captain Marvel, Jon Watts for Spider-Man: Homecoming, and the most experienced director Ryan Coogler for Black Panther.  

Agents of Smash?
Universal purchased the IP for Hulk after it changed hands a couple of times in the late 1990's.   The IP is fairly limiting in the number of characters available to Unviersal without an agreement from Marvel on additional characters.   A-Bomb, Red-Hulk, She-Hulk, and Skaar all are controlled by  Marvel Studios, at least that is my understanding.   The same problem also extends to villains and supporting characters, Universal controls Abomination and the Leader but beyond those two characters it becomes a very murky gray area.

What about Namor McKenzie?
Little is known on exactly how the IP divides up the Marvel Universe when it comes to Namor other than Universal controls the IP when it comes to film rights.   Namor is an alpha-mutant but is separate from the X-Men, created in 1939 he is one of the oldest Comic Book Characters.   He has had dealings with Hellfire Club, the X-Men, Norman Osborne, Alpha Fight, Avengers, the Cabal.
 
I have a feeling it may take a legion of lawyers to determine exactly what Universal can and cannot do with this IP.   And I doubt at the moment Universal even wants to try.
 
 
Status Quo
In the end Universal Studios appears to be very happy with the status quo.   As long as things continue as they are there is no reason to make changes.   Universal has 50 movies already announced through 2019, many of which we could call franchise films (in comparison Disney has 42, Warner Bros. 53 and 20th Century 47) I doubt there schedule would work unless they thought they could make a large fortune.




Hulk to appear in Captain America: Civil War

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An interesting tweet from Mark Ruffalo, is he suggesting that Bruce Banner and maybe the Hulk will appear in the forth coming Captain America: Civil War film or that someone else is or that he is going to the after party...  Well I know what my choice is.

Spoiler Alert.   At the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron the Hulk meekly sits in a Quinjet as it flies away from the destruction in the aftermath of the film.   

William Hurt (Incredible Hulk) has signed on to reprise his role as General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross, a character that has hunted the Hulk for years in the comics.  No word on whether Liv Tyler (Incredible Hulk) or Jennifer Connelly (Hulk) may reprise their role as Betty Ross, Bruce Banner's love interest.

Why no stand alone Hulk Movie?

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Image Courtesy of Marvel Studios
According to Badass Digest the problem is that well Disney has the rights to use Bruce Banner and his Alter Ego, the Hulk, the actual rights to a stand alone film still are controlled by Universal Studios.

Their Source - Mark Ruffalo
As far as a Hulk movie, a standalone Hulk movie, Marvel doesn’t really have the rights to that yet. That’s still Universal’s property, so there’s that issue. That’s a big impediment to moving forward with that. Now I don’t think that’s insurmountable, by the way, but I don’t know where it’s going from here for me.

Well simply put that sucks...

Wolverine - Forever?

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Yesterday I mentioned that Hugh Jackman is changing his stance on hanging up his claws.
 
I wondered if there was more to the story, or more accurately I wondered what 20th Century Fox / Donner and company were offering Hugh Jackman to continue in the role?
 
Cats out of the Bag, at least sort of if you care to read between the lines.
 
Patrick Stewart (Professor Xavier)  and Ellen Page (Shadow Cat) acknowledged that the original trilogy cast is getting another movie.   It has been rumored for a while and even suggested but their interview with hitflix is pretty confirming that its in the works.   20th Century Fox had already announced a date of July 13, 2008 with no additional details, and I wondered what was the plan for that date here.  While I like the idea of a X-Factor film, you have to guess the original cast film is probably the most likely scenario right now.
 
With casting for movies like X-Men: Days of Future Past there is usually one studio option on the cast and sometimes two, so even less surprising that the original cast came back.
 
James Marsden is on keen in returning to the X-Men universe.  So it appears you have the old gang back together again, except Wolverine was hanging up his claws, you kind of need him back.
 
So what gives, yesterday I read an article who cited a unnamed source suggesting Hugh Jackman has been working on getting Wolverine into a Marvel Cinematic Universe film, aka the Avengers.      I kind of blew the article off, unnamed source and all.
 
Today Hugh Jackman again vocalized his opinion again that he would like to see Wolverine in the Avengers, check out the breaking story in Variety.  
 
I can give you ten good reasons that this most likely won't answer, but I will stop at one. 
What's in it for Marvel Studios/Disney?  
I mean the Avengers made $1.5 Billion dollars, its not like adding Hugh Jackman (or any other character they don't control the rights to) is going to make that number go up too much.    Even 1 point would require the movie to make $160 Million more to cover the increased costs.
But what if 20th Century Fox allows Hugh Jackman to appear in multiple MCU films for darn near free, because it wants to keep Jackman in the fold?   I mean if 20th Century Fox is considering it free advertising to build their brand what's the limit.
 
Here is what I think is in the works.
We know that a Hulk movie has been in the works, if you read between the lines if may be jumping up ahead of a couple of other movies. 
Hulk and Wolverine go way back and both have crossed paths several times in the comics and other animated medium.   Could a Hulk and Wolverine crossover movie be in the works, it would address  a number of problems with a stand alone Hulk film, introduce the most iconic raging hatred this side of Canadian Rockies.
 
Followed by Wolverine appearing in Avengers 3 the Infinity War/Gauntlet.  
 
The problem with this is we a short a movie slot between now and when Avengers 3 is most likely going to come out (May 2018).  
 
More to come on this story I am sure.

Rating the Marvel Universe on Film - Number 26

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Courtesy of impawards.com

Hulk


Released: 2003
Final Score: 8/32
Jeff's Score: 5/32

Bruce Banner, a genetics researcher with a tragic past, suffers an accident that causes him to transform into a raging green monster when he gets angry.

What the Critics Said: While Ang Lee's ambitious film earns marks for style and an attempt at dramatic depth, there's ultimately too much talking and not enough smashing.

What I Said: I totally appreciate the effort that Ang Lee put into creating a "Comic Book" movie, including the transition sequences; however it was all for not with the terrible decision to recreate the backstory.

The hulk is one of those movies that just doesn't work for the Audience and is rated last in terms of audience ratings (1/32), however the Critics liked the movie (17/32), the movie was not a huge financial success (6/32) but it didn't lose money either.  
To me the big problem was the change in the backstory of Bruce Banner, dare I say Mutant DNA, which really brings nothing to the story but length.   Had Ang Lee simply gone with the standarad backstory and added one more Hulk smash scene this movie would have scored a lot higher.  

Hulk plays Association Football?

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That's Soccer to you and me.