X-Men and the MCU - Commentary

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Fox's second to the last X-Men film is about to hit theaters and Disney is about to get stuck between a Rock and Hard place with a decision it has to make concerning the X-Men films.   

Dark Phoenix was not expected to be very good and thanks to throwing money at the film it became a lot more expensive than it was originally planned.    Many expected the film to end the X-Men universe from Fox with a whimper.

The film is currently sitting at a 25% on rottentomatoes.com, it is not very good. I hear you all saying it.   Read the reviews.   Many reviewers were simply looking for a comic book movie to take out their displeasure with comic book movies on.   They didn't dare attack the MCU and the DCEU and Hellboy aren't big enough targets.  The reviewers who actually like comic books or comic book films actually liked or at least didn't dislike the film.  Based upon Metacritic.com the average score for those that liked the film, the top 55% was ~65 out of 100.   The bottom 44% is ~28 out of 100.  That's a wide gulf of difference of opinion.    In looking at the critic scores not put into metacritic yet I think there is a good possibility the gulf grows.

Dark Phoenix is not a good movie, but it isn't a bad movie and nowhere near as bad as it rottentomatoes.com score either.   The real score will be better measured by cinemascore or other similar metric.  Do the people that see the movie like the movie?    Does Dark Phoenix get positive word of mouth?

This is where Disney and Marvel Studios run into their conundrum.    Dark Phoenix was expected to lose money, lots of it.  Giving Disney the easy answer in ending the X-Men Universe.    Problem is it might end up making money and end up in the black.   As one analyst suggested it is not improbable that the film makes $50 to $100 Million in profit.

How does it get into the black?
$150 domestic and $450 overseas or $125 domestic and $525 foreign earns $300 in revenues on a $200 Million dollar film (plus marketing).   That's about $50 in the black.  

This isn't the first time that the X-Men were on the chopping block. 

So what happens if Dark Phoenix ends in the black with a solid cinemascore from fans?

Well it is complicated.

The answer may lie with a few statements made by past directors of the X-Men franchise not named Bryan Singer.   Simon Kinberg recently spoke about how professional and organized Marvel Studios are in comparison to 20th Century Fox.    How things like schedules and budgets and special effects and oversight are better with Marvel Studios.  Gavin Hood, Brett Ratner, and Matthew Vaughn have been critical to the lack of support and changes made, often without their knowledge, by 20th Century Fox.   James Mangold hasn't openly criticized 20th Century Fox, but he suggested that The Wolverine was held back by some 20th Century Fox issues.                 

When Disney finally decides to do something with the X-Men they have three very different options to choose from.

1) A Hard reboot and Merge with the Marvel Cinematic Universe
2) A Soft Reboot and a Merge with the Marvel Cinematic Universe
3) A Soft Reboot and a separate X-Men Universe.  

Most fans are in favor of option 1.   It is all over the fan pages and forums.   And before I saw Dark Phoenix I was in that spot.

Option 3 has been pitched to Bob Iger, CEO of Disney, but he has publicly stated that Disney will be happy to put X-Men under Marvel Studios.

Option 2 seemed ridiculous two days-ago.   If Marvel Studios will be the production company, than a Hard Reboot, cut from 20th Century Fox X-Men seemed all but assured.


At the moment I think Option 1 is still the most likely solution, but neither Option 2 nor Option 3 should be removed completely from the table, yet.
The bigger the box office the more likely they movie down the list.   If Dark Phoenix post $50 to $100 Million in profit option 2 becomes a stronger choice and if for some reason the movie brings in $200 Million plus in profit (Talking about a $750 world wide take) option 3 comes into play.

Me personally I think option 2 is the good choice, but there is no best choice.  

Bob Iger what are you going to do?

Dark Phoenix - Review

Posted by Jeff Labels: , ,


Dark Phoenix is not a good movie, but it is not a bad movie either.   It is stuck in that nebulous realm of being simply an okay movie.   I would also add that if you are a fan of the X-Men comics, you actually might like the movie.


The script is a big problem for this film.  The best way to think of the script is to look at 8 episode series for The Runaways paired down to 2 hours and shown on a big screen.  It is not a script for a big budget movie, the scope is too small and you are expected to know exactly what happened  in the missing six hours of the film that you don't see.

The script is not true to the source material, changes are made simply for the sake of changes.   As a fan of the X-Men comics I found this frustration difficult to contain while I watched the film.  I am sure the poor guy sitting next to me was exacerbated with me as I sighed and probably asked "Why?" out loud more than once.  

The script wastes the talents of multiple actors through out the film.    The film has a triumvirate of actors at the core with Jennifer Lawrence (Raven Darkholm/Mystique), James McAvoy (Charles Xavier) and Michael Fassbender (Erik Lensherr/Magento) that is interlaced with Sophie Turner's character (Jean Grey).     You can easily question why the next six core X-Men are in the film, they are given little to no screen time and beyond one or two moments they are not given a chance to showcase their talents or their mutant powers. 

Mystique is presented as a caring and guiding teacher, Charles Xavier is a villain and Magneto is not prepared for what comes.   I was dumb founded.     There are a couple of scenes that are hard to watch.

I still have no idea why Jessica Chastain was in the film, other than someone at 20th Century Fox said there needed to be a main villain, named Vuk.    She is not realistically given anything to do nor do you believe she is a great villain, but she is there to unite the X-Men. 

The special effects are hit and miss.   While those involving Jean Grey and a few around other characters are okay, many look like they belong in a 1980's era TV show.   You just want Ryan Reynolds to show up as Deadpool and give a Mystery Science Theater 3000 commentary on more than one scene.  

The second act is a complete mess.   Issues with the characters, scripts, poor acting, bad direction, and literally it doesn't seem to properly connect with the first or third act. 

Sophie Turner is very good as Jean Grey.  To put it mildly it is disappointing she will most likely not take up the mantle of Jean Grey in the MCU, because she is one bad ass woman you don't want to mess with.

There are a many good lines in the movie.   For a script that is so bad with it's swings and missed it hits the nail on the head solidly a good dozen times.    

Hans Zimmer's score is exceptional; with over 200 composer credits this is easily within his top five  and maybe even his best work.     If the movie was slightly better I would say this is Oscar worthy, as it is it still might be.